Hi to everybody...there is a very interesting article here concerning Professor Shlomo Sand who has written a book which claims that the Jewish Diaspora brought about by the Romans never took place...He was interviewed this morning on 'Start the Week' as one of the guest speakers.
It's a long article so I won't copy and paste it but here's where you can find it...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966952.html
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Bushka
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- 2009-11-09 @ 20:18:10
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jenray
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- 2009-11-09 @ 20:35:24
I believe he also pointed out that the Old Testament is pure myth as well, which makes the New Testament the same...there seems to be indisputable evidence now that this is the case, which is particularly depressing as two major religions of our world have emerged from it in Christianity and Islam and have been responsible for a vast number of deaths for domination of one or the other...
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Will have to read him...I would certainly agree that a great part of the OT is 'Myth'....which does not necessarily make the NT Myth...Not very good logic! But, I'll make a point of reading him...
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jenray
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- 2009-11-09 @ 23:34:40
Yes, it is...scholars know that a great deal of the New Testament alleged sayings of Christ weren't his at all but the Jewish writers interpretation of what they thought he had said...also, if you know the OT is myth...how come Jesus, who was supposed to be the all knowing God's son, didn't tell his people that their books weren't true? I believe he was equally taken in by them, alternatively, he chose to leave them with their beliefs because they weren't going to listen to him no matter what he said...
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Rather complex subject for this forum.....The Nazarene DID question into question...many and much of the Institutions, practices, religious beliefs...etc...ample evidence available for that...There is a great gulf between...Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus of the Church...
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jenray
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- 2009-11-10 @ 11:41:27
It is, but there's a great deal of evidence now that the end of the life of Jesus is pure myth, and even that he didn't die on the cross but was resuscitated with the healing ointments taken into the tomb by Joseph of Arimathea and not embalming ointments as you would expect, and that Jesus left Israel and ended up in Kashmir where he is now buried...
http://www.tombofjesus.com/2007/home.html
Also, the entire Biblical history in the NT would only cover about three weeks of the life of Jesus...the rest of it remains concealed in the Apocryphal gospels in the Vatican that contain stories far too uncomfortable for the Church to have included in the final version of the NT...put together centuries after the alleged death of Jesus on Golgotha...it is a huge subject but we've had discussion here before on it...comes up every now and then...
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I am very much aware of all of the stuff..also familiar with much other very scholarly work....by people who have NO Axe to grind....However, it is a BIG subject! GBHsxx
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jenray
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- 2009-11-10 @ 13:48:02
You think I have an axe to grind then? And, if the Jewish people can believe so ardently in myths including renowned scholars so can Christian and Moslem scholars...my argument is that continuing to believe in myths as the truth is keeping people infantile...mind sets that are based on myths are extremely unhealthy for the well being of the sanity of the human race as well as severely limiting its potential to mature...I don't know whether you approve or disapprove of Richard Dawkins efforts to show that religions are baseless, but he isn't doing it to be malicious but to help the human race to transcend these as he calls them 'memes', ideas passed on from generation to generation that prolong the myths, and grow up...
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1. I was referring to 'scholars' who have no axe to grind!
2. It is unlikely that we could converge in how we perceive what constitutes 'myth'....I deeply respect your knowledge of Religion and Religious Writings...It is likely that I have a great deal more to learn..
3. I am sure Prof Dawkins has a great deal of credible argument to offer; by the same token, I believe there are other equall credible Scholars who can submit the contrary!
I wonder whether we could agree to let the matter rest...
GBHsxx
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A fascinating proposition........He will not be alone in the underlying thesis of an 'invented' or 'contrived' history.......I shall no doubt want to read him first hand!